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01/30/2013 08:00 AM House ENERGY


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08:05:47 AM Overviews (s): "who's Keeping the Lights & Heat On?" Problems & Solutions: Presentation by the Department of Natural Resources
10:11:34 AM Adjourn
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Problems & Solutions:
Presentations by Commissioner Dan Sullivan & Joe
Balash, Deputy Commissioner, Dept. of Natural
Resources & Paul Decker, Division of Oil & Gas
Available for Questions:
- Mayor Dan Sullivan, Municipality of Anchorage
(via Teleconference only)
- Colleen Starring, ENSTAR (present)
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ENERGY                                                                              
                        January 30, 2013                                                                                        
                           8:05 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Doug Isaacson, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Charisse Millett, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                      
Representative Pete Higgins                                                                                                     
Representative Shelley Hughes                                                                                                   
Representative Benjamin Nageak                                                                                                  
Representative Andrew Josephson                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative Mike Chenault                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
OVERVIEWS (S): "WHO'S KEEPING THE LIGHTS & HEAT ON?"  PROBLEMS &                                                                
SOLUTIONS:  PRESENTATION BY THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DAN SULLIVAN, Mayor                                                                                                             
Municipality of Anchorage                                                                                                       
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided opening remarks prior to the                                                                    
presentation by the Department of Natural Resources (DNR).                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DAN SULLIVAN, Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:     Provided   a  PowerPoint   presentation                                                             
entitled, "Cook  Inlet Challenges & Opportunities,"  and answered                                                               
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PAUL DECKER, Petroleum Geologist                                                                                                
Central Office                                                                                                                  
Division of Oil & Gas (DOG)                                                                                                     
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Participated  in the PowerPoint presentation                                                             
entitled, "Cook  Inlet Challenges & Opportunities,"  and answered                                                               
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM BARRON, Director                                                                                                        
Central Office                                                                                                                  
Division of Oil & Gas (DOG)                                                                                                     
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Answered questions  during the  PowerPoint                                                             
presentation    entitled,    "Cook     Inlet    Challenges    and                                                               
Opportunities".                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:05:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR CHARISSE  MILLETT called the House  Special Committee on                                                             
Energy meeting to order at  8:05 a.m.  Representatives Josephson,                                                               
Higgins, Hughes,  Nageak, Isaacson,  and Millett were  present at                                                               
the call to order.   Representative Foster arrived as the meeting                                                               
was in progress.   Representatives Hawker and  Chenault were also                                                               
present.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:05:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEWS (S): "WHO'S  KEEPING THE LIGHTS & HEAT  ON?"  PROBLEMS                                                               
&  SOLUTIONS:     PRESENTATION  BY  THE   DEPARTMENT  OF  NATURAL                                                               
RESOURCES                                                                                                                       
 OVERVIEWS (S): "WHO'S KEEPING THE LIGHTS & HEAT ON?"  PROBLEMS &                                                           
SOLUTIONS:  PRESENTATION BY THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                                             
                                                                                                                              
8:06:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MILLETT announced that the  only order of business would                                                               
be a discussion of Cook  Inlet gas supply, beginning with remarks                                                               
by Dan Sullivan, mayor of Anchorage.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:06:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN  SULLIVAN,  Mayor,  Municipality  of  Anchorage,  stated  his                                                               
appreciation  for the  legislature's continuing  efforts to  meet                                                               
the looming  shortage of a  supply of gas in  Cook Inlet.   It is                                                               
clear  that by  2014 or  earlier, there  will not  be enough  gas                                                               
under  contract to  satisfy  the needs  of  the local  utilities,                                                               
although  many  entities  are  searching  for  solutions  to  the                                                               
situation.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:06:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN  SULLIVAN,  Commissioner,  Department  of  Natural  Resources                                                               
(DNR), stated that Cook Inlet  gas supply is a "hugely" important                                                               
issue   and   his   intent   is  to   provide   DNR's   and   the                                                               
administration's perspectives to the committee.   There have been                                                               
a  lot  of  accurate  and  less accurate  reports  in  the  press                                                               
recently on this issue; the  goal today is to present information                                                               
to the  committee and  dispel the  major differences  of opinion.                                                               
Commissioner  Sullivan  acknowledged  that  there  are  different                                                               
perspectives from the utilities and  others, but opined there are                                                               
not major disagreements.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:09:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MILLETT  said her constituents are  asking whether there                                                               
are any  producers who are  willing to  sign a gas  contract with                                                               
the utilities at this time.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SULLIVAN  responded  that DNR  shares  the  concern                                                               
about "gas under  contract" and does not  believe that everything                                                               
is fine.  The presentation will  show the actions DNR has taken -                                                               
directly  and  tangentially  - related  to  its  responsibilities                                                               
assigned  by the  legislature.   He  stressed DNR  wants to  talk                                                               
about  terminology  and is  aggressively  seeking  to bring  more                                                               
companies up to drill more wells  and invest, which is the way to                                                               
address the problem  in the immediate term.   However, he agreed,                                                               
"the issue of timing is there."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:12:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MILLET cautioned that there  are mixed messages from the                                                               
utilities' point  of view  and from DNR.   She  acknowledged that                                                               
DNR sees a  lot of activity in the inlet,  but questioned whether                                                               
her  constituents  should  feel   comfortable  in  thinking  that                                                               
"'tomorrow we'll have a gas contract' if that's not the truth."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SULLIVAN  pointed out  that  gas  contracts are  an                                                               
issue  in  the  private  sector between  the  utilities  and  the                                                               
producers;  however,  DNR  is  encouraging  more  investment  and                                                               
production  so  that gas  contracts  can  happen.   Although  DNR                                                               
cannot guarantee contracts  are signed, its focus is to  set up a                                                               
favorable situation.   He agreed  that challenges exist  and that                                                               
the issue  of gas not under  contract should not be  equated with                                                               
the issue as  to whether the basin is depleted.   The presence of                                                               
more resource will encourage security,  more production, and more                                                               
drilling, and  DNR will continue  to work with other  entities to                                                               
go forward.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:14:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MIKE  HAWKER observed that the  presentation today                                                               
is  not new  and  there  is no  disagreement  with  DNR that  the                                                               
prospects of  the inlet are strong.   On the other  hand, judging                                                               
by  a previous  study by  Petrotechnical Resources  Alaska (PRA),                                                               
the required  level of drilling needed  to meet the needs  of the                                                               
inlet  is  not adequate.    He  expressed  his concern  that  DNR                                                               
continues to say that there is  plenty of gas and attracting more                                                               
drilling is  the answer; however,  the utilities  are responsible                                                               
for keeping  on the heat  and lights,  and their concern  is that                                                               
the  present  level   of  drilling  is  not   likely  to  provide                                                               
sufficient gas  within the  necessary timeframe.   Representative                                                               
Hawker said  this is  the area of  different perspectives  and he                                                               
asked whether the utilities should  be looking at alternatives to                                                               
drilling to meet the needs of Cook Inlet.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:17:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN  opined one of  the messages today  is that                                                               
everybody  should be  taking prudent  measures  to ensure  energy                                                               
security.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MILLETT warned  that in the meantime  the utilities will                                                               
be importing liquefied natural gas  (LNG) which would not be good                                                               
for the  basin or the  state.  In  the short term,  drilling will                                                               
not equate to production and gas contracts.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:18:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER   SULLIVAN  advised   this   presentation  and   his                                                               
experience  confirm that  more information  and more  experienced                                                               
people working on a complicated issue  is best.  He restated that                                                               
the reports  that DNR is unconcerned  are wrong; in fact,  DNR is                                                               
presenting the  path to addressing a  very significant challenge,                                                               
-  with immediate-term  actions  and  longer-term implications  -                                                               
including importing  gas.   In addition, this  is a  problem many                                                               
years in the  making, and his presentation will show  some of the                                                               
significant  actions the  state has  taken.   In response  to the                                                               
whole suite of  issues that need to be addressed,  one action DNR                                                               
has  taken is  bringing in  the  utilities and  the producers  to                                                               
discuss how  to get  more gas  from the  inlet and  into storage.                                                               
The department can play a  problem-solving role and seeks to make                                                               
the  committee  aware  of its  actions.    Commissioner  Sullivan                                                               
stressed it  is critical  that all of  the players  involved work                                                               
together, and  said the utilities  would agree that the  best way                                                               
to resolve the  problem in the immediate term is  to get more gas                                                               
from the  inlet.   Regarding long-term  solutions for  the energy                                                               
security  issues in  Southcentral  or the  Interior,  DNR is  100                                                               
percent focused on a gas line  from the North Slope.  Although it                                                               
was reported that  DNR does not support a gas  line, he clarified                                                               
that was not the case.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:24:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NAGEAK  said, "I wish  we had this  ... discussion                                                               
for our  people in  rural Alaska.   This  [problem of]  access to                                                               
gas, and the attention that  it's getting from the state, because                                                               
we have the  same problems in our parts of  the world where there                                                               
is no  attention given to the  high price that they  have to deal                                                               
with in all of the villages."   He expressed his hope that during                                                               
the course  of this  session the legislature  can talk  about the                                                               
cost of energy for all of the state's citizens.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MILLETT  agreed  that  that is  the  intention  of  the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SULLIVAN recalled  that  when  the governor  talked                                                               
about the immediate  energy plan of trucking LNG  to the Interior                                                               
he included  the potential  to bring energy  to rural  areas, and                                                               
when  the commissioner  was  attorney general  the  high cost  of                                                               
energy was the number one issue there.   As an aside, he said DNR                                                               
recently issued  a report locating  where resources such  as gas,                                                               
coal, and  geothermal exist  in rural  communities, all  of which                                                               
are possible  solutions to the  energy problem in parts  of rural                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:28:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ISAACSON observed  that trucking LNG is not  going to be                                                               
economical for  Cook Inlet  and construction  of the  natural gas                                                               
pipeline is  a decade away.   As the  gas contracts are  going to                                                               
expire in 2014 or 2015, he  asked whether the state has taken any                                                               
action to  accelerate production out  of Cook Inlet to  "fill the                                                               
gap between trucking of gas or a gas pipeline construction."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN  responded that  DNR will present  a number                                                               
of things and ideas  to try to make the gap  as small as possible                                                               
and to push out the point where the gas supply is insufficient.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ISAACSON  asked, "Can actions  by the  department result                                                               
in gas under contract by 2015 in Cook Inlet."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SULLIVAN reiterated  that gas  under contract  is a                                                               
private  sector  transaction  between  utilities  and  producers;                                                               
hopefully, the presentation will  show that aggressive actions by                                                               
DNR have  increased the number  of investors and activity.   Much                                                               
of this activity  is also due to legislative action.   He relayed                                                               
that  what  is  seen  at   this  time  is  increased  investment,                                                               
exploration, and  drill rigs, but  not increased  production yet.                                                               
Tax  and investment  incentives through  legislative action  have                                                               
helped in this regard.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:33:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MILLETT  asked whether  DNR views  what is  happening in                                                               
Southcentral  as  an  imminent  crisis, or  does  the  department                                                               
believe  gas  contracts  will  be secured  within  the  next  six                                                               
months.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN  said he did  not know, but  guaranteed the                                                               
committee  DNR  will continue  to  do  its  part  to help.    The                                                               
department  sees the  lack of  gas  under contract  as a  serious                                                               
problem.  He  raised the importance of terminology  and urged the                                                               
committee to hear the testimony from the Division of Oil & Gas.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MILLETT restated her question.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SULLIVAN answered,  "I  would say  we  see ...  the                                                               
immediate  concern ...  of  a lack  of gas  under  contract as  a                                                               
significant problem that we're trying to address."                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER added that failure is not an option.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN agreed.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:35:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIGGINS  observed this  problem has been  known by                                                               
DNR for  10 years.   Everyone is aware  of the shortfall,  and he                                                               
questioned what has  been done in the last 10  years to alleviate                                                               
the problem.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN  explained what has  been done in  the past                                                               
two years:    historical records  have been searched to  see what                                                               
actions by the  state, regulators, and others  have been helpful,                                                               
for  example,  actions by  the  Regulatory  Commission of  Alaska                                                               
(RCA).   In addition, the  presentation will update  DNR's recent                                                               
activities such  as bringing together  all of the  parties active                                                               
in the basin.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:38:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIGGINS referred  to  one of  the conclusions  to                                                               
DNR's presentation that read:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Long term energy security is also clearly achievable                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIGGINS opined  gas is  not a  long-term solution                                                               
because eventually  it will run out.   He urged the  committee to                                                               
look  "outside the  box" at  wind and  hydroelectric (hydro)  for                                                               
long-term solutions.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SULLIVAN explained  the reference  is to  long-term                                                               
energy security  being clearly achievable  with regard  to Alaska                                                               
utilizing all of its enormous available resources statewide.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:40:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  called attention to another  conclusion to                                                               
the presentation, which  was that importing gas  could stifle the                                                               
"Cook Inlet  renaissance."  He  asked for the  difference between                                                               
importing  gas  from  the  south  or from  the  north  through  a                                                               
pipeline,  and  whether DNR  would  take  action to  prevent  the                                                               
importation of gas if the utilities choose to do so.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:42:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN advised that this  is an issue DNR needs to                                                               
"look at hard,"  noting that the governor has said  imports are a                                                               
last  resort.   He  pointed  out there  is  a difference  between                                                               
short-term  imports to  address a  shortage, and  long-term large                                                               
volume  imports  -  the  latter of  which  raises  DNR's  broader                                                               
concern.  Although  the governor did not say no,  this issue must                                                               
be  put before  the  state's policy-makers.    He cautioned  that                                                               
under  another scenario,  long-term  large  volume imports  could                                                               
undermine the  need for  a gas  pipeline.   Commissioner Sullivan                                                               
reiterated the administration's 100  percent support for gas from                                                               
the  North  Slope  for  all   Alaskans,  stressing  the  positive                                                               
progress that has  been made in the past year  by both the Alaska                                                               
Pipeline  Project  (APP)  and   the  Alaska  Gasline  Development                                                               
Corporation  (AGDC).    In  fact,  the  two  top  issues  DNR  is                                                               
concerned  about  regarding  the  state's energy  needs  are  the                                                               
decline  in throughput  and gas  from the  North Slope.   In  the                                                               
immediate term,  DNR also  seeks more  production in  Cook Inlet.                                                               
He  restated his  purpose  to  make the  committee  aware of  the                                                               
possible  implications  of  the  long-term  large  volume  import                                                               
option.  In response to  Representative Hawker's second question,                                                               
he  said DNR  wants energy  security  and this  is an  open-ended                                                               
question.   It  is important  that all  of the  affected entities                                                               
work together and  make prudent decisions for  energy security in                                                               
the near-term.   Commissioner  Sullivan said,  "So, I  think it's                                                               
just premature  to ... answer  that one way  or the other,  but I                                                               
don't see us taking any action  that would not be in the interest                                                               
of making sure we have energy security."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:47:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MILLETT  relayed that  her  constituents  want to  know                                                               
whether it  is prudent to have  both APP and AGDC  projects going                                                               
forward.   She opined there  is a fundamental  disconnect between                                                               
the  administration  and  the  legislature's  desire  for  a  gas                                                               
pipeline.  Focusing  on one project will  prevent the duplication                                                               
of work  and additional expense.   She expressed her  belief that                                                               
there is  a continuing struggle  between what  the administration                                                               
and the public want.   Although political power has been invested                                                               
in  the  Alaska  Gasline  Inducement  Act (AGIA),  it  is  not  a                                                               
solution for  DNR to continue  to maintain that the  two projects                                                               
are complementary.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:48:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SULLIVAN  acknowledged that  the  state  is on  two                                                               
parallel  paths  regarding  the  gas pipeline:    AGDC  and  APP.                                                               
However,  important   progress  has   been  made  and   in  fact,                                                               
accelerating  the gas  pipeline  is  "a huge,  huge  part of  our                                                               
work."  Last year the governor  set benchmarks for APP which have                                                               
been met.   The parallel paths of the two  projects have not been                                                               
duplicative  because AGDC  work  has been  focused on  regulatory                                                               
issues,  environmental impact  statements  (EIS),  and rights  of                                                               
way.  On  the other hand, the APP project  is focused on upstream                                                               
issues,   coordination  between   leaseholders,  producers,   and                                                               
engineering  work.   He acknowledged  that the  work needs  to be                                                               
accelerated to meet benchmarks set  for all four companies, and a                                                               
detailed  report   on  the  project   is  due  within   a  month.                                                               
Commissioner  Sullivan  turned   attention  to  other  successful                                                               
actions  by  DNR during  the  last  year,  and described  a  very                                                               
aggressive  campaign through  Asia -  to market  the state's  gas                                                               
and highlight the  progress of both gas line projects  - that has                                                               
now made Alaska  part of the conversation in Asia  as a source of                                                               
gas.   For example, a  team from  the Korea Gas  Corporation, the                                                               
largest buyer  of gas  in the  world, came  to Juneau  to discuss                                                               
LNG.   He  expressed his  interest in  briefing the  committee on                                                               
these developments.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:54:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HUGHES  appreciated the efforts of  the department                                                               
over the last  two years.  Looking back over  the last ten years,                                                               
she asked whether  DNR is missing the tools  necessary to prevent                                                               
the current  mode of crisis  management - not just  regarding the                                                               
situation in  Cook Inlet -  but to develop a  statewide long-term                                                               
energy plan "with teeth in it."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:56:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SULLIVAN  gave  the  example of  the  way  RCA  and                                                               
Regulatory  Affairs  &  Public Advocacy  (RAPA),  Civil  Division                                                               
(Anchorage),  Department  of  Law  (DOL),  previously  looked  at                                                               
energy issues in the inlet.   Both agencies focused almost solely                                                               
on price without considering long-term  energy security.  This is                                                               
an area  where the administration  convinced regulators  that the                                                               
public  interest  is  a  combination of  price  and  security  of                                                               
supply.  At the same time,  the legislature emphasized to RCA the                                                               
duality  of purpose,  but he  was unsure  of whether  that helped                                                               
with the energy supply issue.   He said, "We've been meeting with                                                               
every player in  the inlet for months, asking  the questions that                                                               
you are asking."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:58:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT  agreed  that energy  is  a  complicated                                                               
issue in the  inlet, reminding the committee not  to forget about                                                               
the  abundance of  coal.   He  recalled there  were  a number  of                                                               
legislators raising  red flags about the  gas distribution system                                                               
in Cook Inlet over the years.   He confirmed that there would not                                                               
be interest in Alaska from  the Japanese, Koreans, and Chinese if                                                               
not for  the progress of  the gas pipeline projects.   Discussion                                                               
of  the gas  pipeline goes  back 40  years during  many meetings.                                                               
Representative  Chenault gave  Representative  Hawker credit  for                                                               
the  successful development  of  Cook Inlet  Natural Gas  Storage                                                               
Alaska  (CINGSA),  saying  it  was  an  example  of  recognizing,                                                               
addressing, and solving a problem.   On the other hand, the Healy                                                               
Clean Coal  Plant (HCCP)  is a 50-megawatt  power system  that is                                                               
not functioning, although  every watt of power that  moves up and                                                               
down the line  saves a molecule of  gas that can be  used in Cook                                                               
Inlet  and along  the Railbelt.   He  expressed concern  that his                                                               
constituents  do  not have  a  feeling  of security  because  the                                                               
choice of  heating for  Cook Inlet does  not have  an alternative                                                               
source to  fall back  on.   He opined no  one is  considering the                                                               
long-term importation of LNG; in  fact, once LNG is imported "the                                                               
problem will  get fixed."  However,  a winter failure of  the gas                                                               
distribution system in Cook Inlet  will cause billions of dollars                                                               
in damages.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:03:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SULLIVAN stated  his personal  interest in  the gas                                                               
system in Anchorage.  The  presentation today lays out many other                                                               
issues to consider  about this situation, a variety  of ideas for                                                               
solutions, and actions taken by DNR.    He spoke of DNR's part in                                                               
getting CINGSA online  and in time.  Regarding coal,  he said the                                                               
situation with HCCP is "outrageous,"  and restated the urgency to                                                               
commercialize natural  gas from the  North Slope.   He reiterated                                                               
that DNR is  focused on Cook Inlet and is  working in the state's                                                               
interest on  this and other  issues; the ultimate message  is the                                                               
importance  of  all   working  together  and  that   is  why  DNA                                                               
questioned  RCA on  its role.   Commissioner  Sullivan urged  the                                                               
committee  to   hear  the  information  from   the  knowledgeable                                                               
representatives of DNR.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:09:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ISAACSON appreciated  DNR's  desire to  be specific  on                                                               
terms, but  said he  sees "a disconnect"  between its  desire and                                                               
its vision.   He observed that hard work is  not always enough to                                                               
ensure success  and offered to  provide the department  any tools                                                               
that it  needs.   Co-Chair Isaacson  recalled the  Alaska Gasline                                                               
Port  Authority  (AGPA) was  established  by  the voters  over  a                                                               
decade ago  and has urged  for a business relationship  with Asia                                                               
ever  since.    He  referred   to  slide  28  of  the  PowerPoint                                                               
presentation that  read, "Redouble efforts to  continue increased                                                               
investment," and asked  for the meaning of  redouble, and details                                                               
on   DNR's  challenge   to  "continue   to  look   for  ways   to                                                               
incentivize."   He  also asked  for  the real  action steps  with                                                               
actual  customers that  DNR has  taken leading  to real  dollars,                                                               
drill  timetables,   and  production  goals  to   get  gas  under                                                               
contract.   The public and  the legislature seek  a crystal-clear                                                               
decisive  action   used  to  "defining  our   timetables  and  of                                                               
productions and  whether or not we  will even have to  consider a                                                               
scenario of anything other than  a spot purchase of natural gas."                                                               
Furthermore, information  is needed  about other  alternatives in                                                               
the mix  - such as  fuel oil and coal  - that can  circumvent any                                                               
shortfall of Cook Inlet gas under contract.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:13:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN answered  that DNR - now, more  than in the                                                               
past  -  is  very  aggressive  in  seeking  potential  investors,                                                               
companies, and gas  customers like KOGAS and Mitsui  for the "big                                                               
line"  or customers  for Cook  Inlet.   The  department and  U.S.                                                               
Geological Survey (USGS) do not  believe Cook Inlet is a depleted                                                               
basin.  From the prospective of  DNR, the solution to the problem                                                               
of  gas under  contract in  the Cook  Inlet basin  is to  use the                                                               
tools  from  the legislature  and  "make  the case  to  potential                                                               
companies,  particularly  companies  that  have  a  strong  track                                                               
record of turning around declining  basins, and bring capital and                                                               
expertise,  and that's  exactly what  we've been  doing."   These                                                               
efforts  have   been  instrumental  in  bringing   Apache  Alaska                                                               
Corporation and  Hilcorp Energy Company  to invest in  Cook Inlet                                                               
and  bring its  resource  to market.   In  addition,  there is  a                                                               
resurgent interest in lease sales.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:16:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIGGINS  called  attention  to  slide  6  of  the                                                               
PowerPoint presentation that read:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     43 years of exporting LNG to Japan, (approximately 2.5                                                                     
     trillion cubic feet); have never missed a shipment                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIGGINS warned  that to fill the  shortfall of gas                                                               
for the  people of Alaska,  eventually shipments will  be missed.                                                               
He  asked   whether  the  bureaucracy   of  DNR  is   holding  up                                                               
production, and  if so, there needs  to be a change,  because DNR                                                               
says there  is plenty  of gas  and exploration,  but there  is no                                                               
production.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:17:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN  stated that DNR  has done the  opposite of                                                               
what has been  implied and has expended great effort  to get more                                                               
investment, production, and rigs in  Cook Inlet.  He acknowledged                                                               
that DNR  is a  big, bureaucratic  organization; however,  it has                                                               
been focused for  two years on making its  permitting system more                                                               
timely,  efficient, and  certain.   These  are improvements  that                                                               
will require legislative  changes.  He guaranteed  DNR's focus on                                                               
the  North  Slope and  Cook  Inlet;  for  example, DNR  is  using                                                               
leverage  provided  by statute  against  companies  that want  to                                                               
apply  for units  by requiring  certain  actions to  get a  unit.                                                               
This is the  reason for the surge in activity  referred to as the                                                               
Cook   Inlet  renaissance.      Commissioner  Sullivan   credited                                                               
legislators for incentives that  have attracted new interest, and                                                               
for  creating  the  gas  storage  facility.    As  an  aside,  he                                                               
described DNR's  part in expediting  the regulatory  approval and                                                               
permitting processes for CINGSA.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:22:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  returned to the question  regarding the                                                               
lack of production in Cook Inlet  and asked if the economics, the                                                               
price, or  difficulties in  drilling were  specific factors.   He                                                               
said he was ready to see DNR's presentation.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN  called attention  to slide 4  and stressed                                                               
that there is  a transition in Cook Inlet  from larger producers,                                                               
such as Chevron and Marathon,  to mid-size and smaller companies,                                                               
which have  different expertise.   This is a positive  trend, but                                                               
this  type   of  transition  can   slow  activity   and  increase                                                               
uncertainty.  Furthermore, during  the transition between Hilcorp                                                               
and  Marathon, the  Federal  Trade  Commission (FTC)  intervened,                                                               
which  affected progress  for months.   He  advised that  the big                                                               
companies  are  "kind  of  done with  Cook  Inlet"  thus  getting                                                               
investment from other companies that  are motivated to explore is                                                               
important.    Another  common  theme to  remember  is  that  many                                                               
different stakeholders  must be brought together,  and having the                                                               
legislature involved  is critical.   Slide  5 indicated  the most                                                               
critical goal  is energy security  for Alaskans -  keeping lights                                                               
and  power on  -  along with  redundancies,  different ideas  for                                                               
solutions, and jobs;  in fact, production and  investment in Cook                                                               
Inlet is creating many good jobs.   Another key issue to consider                                                               
is  that  decisions  made  now   can  impact  longer-term  energy                                                               
security goals, which  are to accelerate the  construction of the                                                               
gas  pipeline,  jobs,  and  more  Cook  Inlet  production.    The                                                               
committee  should be  advised  that the  challenge  of gas  under                                                               
contract is not the same as a basin that is depleted.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:28:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON   asked  for  details  about   the  LNG                                                               
contracts with Japan.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN said that  is a question for ConocoPhillips                                                               
Alaska.  He  added that the LNG terminal was  built because there                                                               
was originally more gas than needed  for the demands of the local                                                               
market;  now  the  discussion  is   about  ways  to  address  the                                                               
immediate concerns and to incentivize  more production, which may                                                               
mean  larger scale  projects  such  as gas  for  Agrium, Inc.  or                                                               
Donlin Creek gold mine.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:30:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAUL  DECKER, Petroleum  Geologist, Central  Office, Division  of                                                               
Oil & Gas (DOG), Department  of Natural Resources (DNR), informed                                                               
the  committee   he  leads  the   Resource  Evaluation   team  of                                                               
physicists   and  engineers   whose  jobs   are  to   objectively                                                               
understand the resource  base in Alaska and how  that impacts the                                                               
management of  state land.   Slide 8 displayed USGS  estimates of                                                               
the undiscovered  volumes of technically recoverable  resource in                                                               
Cook Inlet.  He advised that  these volumes do not correlate with                                                               
gas under  contract or gas  reserves available for  contract, but                                                               
are a big  picture look of the basin's remaining  potential.  The                                                               
most recent assessment indicates 19  trillion cubic feet (TCF) of                                                               
natural gas and about 650 million  barrels of oil and natural gas                                                               
liquids (NGLs).  These resources may  not be in large fields thus                                                               
are  technically recoverable,  but  not  necessarily economic  to                                                               
recover.   Mr. Decker advised  that resources are a  much broader                                                               
category  of  oil  and  gas,   and  include  everything  that  is                                                               
undiscovered,  and everything  that has  been discovered  but has                                                               
not yet  been determined  to be economic  to produce;  only after                                                               
resources have  demonstrated commerciality can they  be placed in                                                               
the reserves categories of proved, probable, or possible.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:33:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SULLIVAN  stated  that  DNR  ensures  oil  and  gas                                                               
companies are aware of the USGS report.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:33:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.   DECKER  continued   to  slide   9,  explaining   that  peak                                                               
deliverability   differs   from   annual  average   demand,   and                                                               
Southcentral power  demand is cyclical  with summer  volumes much                                                               
lower than  in winter.    The department works to  understand the                                                               
volume of  resources but  does not address  the question  of peak                                                               
deliverability.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SULLIVAN   said  the   utilities  are   focused  on                                                               
deliverability.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. DECKER  continued to  slide 10,  explaining that  DNR -  as a                                                               
land  management   and  resource   management  agency  -   has  a                                                               
responsibility to  understand all  of the  resource in  the state                                                               
thus the information DNR needs  is inherently different than what                                                               
the utilities  need; also, DNR  has a different  perspective than                                                               
the  producers.   Because of  that difference,  the DNR  study of                                                               
Cook Inlet  gas incorporates additional analyses  beyond what PRA                                                               
has undertaken.   He  acknowledged that the  PRA study  is "great                                                               
work," and relevant  to the need of the utilities,  which was for                                                               
a  decline  curve  analysis.    Although  the  DNR  study  is  in                                                               
agreement with  the PRA study at  that point, the DNR  study goes                                                               
further,  looking at  material  balance  and geologic  volumetric                                                               
analyses.    The  PRA  report  serves the  purpose  to  help  the                                                               
utilities  understand  proved  reserves  and  gas  available  for                                                               
contract.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:36:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SULLIVAN  restated  the different  perspectives  of                                                               
utilities, producers,  and DNR;  in fact,  DNR is  presenting the                                                               
broadest analysis of  the resource, which is  what the department                                                               
- as the state's land and resource manager - should see.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:37:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DECKER  called attention  to slide  12 and  further explained                                                               
that the PRA  study relies exclusively on  decline curve analysis                                                               
which  is complicated  to  do in  a  non-steady state  production                                                               
environment with dynamic swings in  demand from summer to winter.                                                               
As this non-steady environment may  cloud the production from the                                                               
reservoir, in  2009, 2011,  and 2012,  DNR augmented  the decline                                                               
curve  analysis  with  material  balance  analysis  and  geologic                                                               
volumetric  mapping data  from four  fields  that had  sufficient                                                               
well-data  available.    When looking  at  the  material  balance                                                               
engineering approach, DNR identified  about one-third more gas in                                                               
28  existing  fields.    In  addition,  the  geologic  volumetric                                                               
analysis  identified  even more  possible  undeveloped  gas.   He                                                               
again stressed  that this  is gas believed  to be  available, but                                                               
not  necessarily  available  to put  under  contract  immediately                                                               
without further investment.  Slide  13 explained material balance                                                               
analysis is  an industry standard engineering  approach that uses                                                               
the change in  reservoir pressure over time to  estimate how much                                                               
gas   is   contained  in   reservoirs   that   are  in   pressure                                                               
communication with  existing producing wells.   He explained that                                                               
this  is  similar to  gauging  how  much air  was  in  a tire  by                                                               
measuring changes  in air pressure  as the  air leaks out.   This                                                               
process  increased estimates  over  those  identified by  decline                                                               
curve  analysis  by about  one-third  in  the reserves  category.                                                               
Further,  after DNR  mapped sands  into categories,  the geologic                                                               
volumetric   analysis  data   suggested   that  with   additional                                                               
investment of  drilling new  wells, infill  drilling, work  on or                                                               
recompletion of  older wells, or  adding compression, "we  end up                                                               
with significant volumes of gas  resource, some of which is going                                                               
to  be commercial  to exploit,  we  believe, portions  of it  may                                                               
not."    Slide  14  indicated  that  the  PRA  study  predicts  a                                                               
shortfall in  gas production under  contract within the  next few                                                               
years, and Mr. Decker said:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     It is obviously  a concern for all of  us, we're deeply                                                                    
     concerned  about   it,  we  don't   want  that   to  be                                                                    
     misconstrued, but  it really  must not be  construed to                                                                    
     mean that the gas resources  in the basin are depleted,                                                                    
     rather it reflects  the fact that not  enough new wells                                                                    
     are  being  drilled to  keep  pace  with the  declining                                                                    
     production from the existing wells.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:44:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DECKER continued, saying because  Cook Inlet is isolated from                                                               
the North American  spot market, the amount of  gas available for                                                               
delivery  at any  given time  is a  function of  sales contracts.                                                               
Thus,  until companies  are  assured  of a  market,  there is  no                                                               
commercial  incentive  to identify  reserves.    He restated  the                                                               
point that two of the major  producers in Cook Inlet, Chevron and                                                               
Marathon,  were  in "exit  strategy  mode"  and made  alternative                                                               
investments.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN informed the  committee that DNR has sought                                                               
to  replace incumbent  producers  with  motivated companies  that                                                               
want to produce more.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  said,  "Unless  Chugach  Electric  and                                                               
[Matanuska  Electric  Association]  are  just  fibbing,  I  could                                                               
guarantee these operators that there is  a demand, so ... I don't                                                               
understand  how they're  feeling vulnerable  about whether  there                                                               
could be a contract for sale."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:45:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
WILLIAM BARRON, Director,  Central Office, Division of  Oil & Gas                                                               
(DOG), Department  of Natural Resources (DNR),  stated that these                                                               
are very complex business decisions.   A company may not have the                                                               
volume of gas that is required  for a long-term commitment.  What                                                               
the   Cook   Inlet   market    has   created   is   "just-in-time                                                               
deliverability."   Thus  companies drill  only enough  to produce                                                               
for  a   closed  market   with  a   200  percent   difference  in                                                               
deliverability from summer  to winter; in fact,  the economics of                                                               
drilling a well just  for 10 to 20 extremely cold  winter days  -                                                               
with the  remainder of  days idle, but  accruing expenses  - does                                                               
not add up for a producing company.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN  reminded the  committee of  the importance                                                               
of storage, which is a  tool to address deliverability issues and                                                               
the economic alignment between producers and utility companies.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MILLETT  pointed out  not enough  gas was  produced this                                                               
summer to fill CINGSA to capacity.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:48:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BARRON  advised that  those  are  commercial issues  between                                                               
independent private  parties.  He  stated that many  parties sold                                                               
to CINGSA  this summer and  this winter, and, "many  parties also                                                               
sold to  the LNG contract during  this summer ...."   Five or six                                                               
producers are trying  to satisfy five or six  utilities, each one                                                               
of which has its own perspective and business drivers.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SULLIVAN  observed that  DNR  was  an atypical  but                                                               
significant influence  in resolving  some storage  issues between                                                               
producers and utilities.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MILLETT opined  there is  no  lack of  interest in  gas                                                               
contracts  but  production  is  continually  the  problem.    The                                                               
legislature has created incentives  with credits, and still there                                                               
is a decline in production.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SULLIVAN agreed,  adding  that  behind pipe  assets                                                               
that were "frozen" are now approved.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:52:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DECKER  directed attention to  slide 15, saying "this  may be                                                               
the  source  of some  of  the  misinterpretation of  our  message                                                               
here,"  because it  is a  hypothetical  production forecast  that                                                               
assumes substantial investment,  redevelopment activity, and some                                                               
exploration success  in the basin.   He stressed that  the actual                                                               
years in  which the estimated  produced volume would come  to the                                                               
surface and hit  the market are entirely hypothetical.   Slide 16                                                               
illustrated the  categorization of  Cook Inlet gas  volumes using                                                               
terminology  from the  globally-accepted international  petroleum                                                               
management  system  to  define   resources  and  reserves.    The                                                               
categories  shown  were  in three  tiers  with  the  undiscovered                                                               
resources at the bottom.   These are sometimes called prospective                                                               
resources and were  identified by USGS in Cook Inlet.   If a well                                                               
is  drilled and  there is  discovery,  but the  discovery is  not                                                               
shown  to be  commercial, the  resources are  categorized in  the                                                               
middle tier as contingent resources.   After a company is "board-                                                               
sanctioned  to develop  those resources,"  and the  resources are                                                               
clearly  shown  to be  economic  to  produce, the  resources  are                                                               
categorized  in  the top  tier  in  one of  three  subcategories:                                                               
proved  -  those  that  are essentially  90  percent  certain  to                                                               
produce; probable  - those with  a 50 percent chance  to produce;                                                               
and possible  - those with  a 10 percent  chance to produce.   He                                                               
explained that the  colors of categories match the  colors of the                                                               
resources  and reserves  identified  in DNR's  study [slide  15],                                                               
some  of  which are  in  the  contingent resource  category,  but                                                               
"clearly a  lot of it  is in the  proved or probable  or possible                                                               
reserves category."   Mr. Decker concluded,  saying DOG's updated                                                               
estimates of probable  - or 2P - reserves are  about 1.1 trillion                                                               
cubic feet  (TCF) [of  gas] in  the remaining  28 fields.   Also,                                                               
about 355  billion cubic feet  (BCF) [of gas] were  identified as                                                               
undeveloped gas resources:  233 BCF in the Beluga  River Unit; 72                                                               
BCF in  the Grayling Gas  Sands Trading Bay  Unit; and 50  BCF in                                                               
the North Cook Inlet Unit.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ISAACSON  asked how much of  the 1.1 TCF of  reserves is                                                               
destined for markets  outside of Alaska, following  the 2.2 [TCF]                                                               
that has already left the state.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. DECKER was unsure.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ISAACSON then asked whether  DNR has asked the producers                                                               
for their projected sales plans.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARRON  interjected that the  LNG export licenses are  due to                                                               
expire  in  March,   and  the  operator  has   not  requested  an                                                               
extension.   Therefore,  at this  time, none  of the  1.1 TCF  is                                                               
committed to outside contracts.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. DECKER redirected attention to  slide 17 and pointed out that                                                               
since DNR's  study, new wells  have been  drilled in some  of the                                                               
existing   fields,  most   of   which   have  been   commercially                                                               
successful, and confirming that the resource is there.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:59:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER SULLIVAN  continued to slide 18,  entitled, "State's                                                               
Actions Regarding Cook Inlet."   He acknowledged that DNR has not                                                               
done a good job of explaining  the point that the shortage of gas                                                               
under  contract does  not equal  a  depleted basin,  and what  is                                                               
needed is to get  more gas out.  Slide 19  listed the actions the                                                               
state   has   taken  that   are   directly   within  DNR's   core                                                               
responsibilities, such  as leases and  investment.   For example,                                                               
DNR has  been "making the case  on this basin" to  companies that                                                               
are interested in assets that  are behind pipe or in exploration.                                                               
This is accomplished by the  continued dissemination of good news                                                               
to  new  companies and  aggressively  using  leverage over  lease                                                               
terms "to  get more wells being  drilled."  In addition,  DNR has                                                               
improved timely and efficient permitting  and issues with federal                                                               
permitting,  the legislature  has improved  the RCA  process, and                                                               
DNR's geological  survey team has  been gathering  and publishing                                                               
new data on the basin.    He reiterated that DNR fast-tracked the                                                               
permitting  of   CINGSA,  worked  closely  with   the  utilities,                                                               
reoriented  RAPA,   and  is  reviewing  areas   affecting  energy                                                               
security  such  as  HCCP, underground  coal  gasification  (UCG),                                                               
hydroelectric,  and the  Eva Creek  wind farm.   Other  areas not                                                               
directly   within   DNR's    purview   include   expediting   the                                                               
Hilcorp/Chevron transaction and FTC issues.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:04:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  SULLIVAN continued  to slide  23 which  illustrated                                                               
recent activity  in Cook Inlet.   He  stated it is  important for                                                               
the legislature  to understand the positive  activities that have                                                               
taken place in Cook Inlet over  the past two years which include:                                                               
many new  players; approximately  $500 million has  been invested                                                               
in 2012; resurging interest in  lease sales; increasing number of                                                               
rigs;  expanded  3D  seismic  program;   and  gas  storage.    In                                                               
addition, DNR is  focused on oversight to ensure that  all of the                                                               
new activities  and development are without  accident.  Regarding                                                               
the idea  that the  industry is  exploring for  oil and  not gas,                                                               
Commissioner Sullivan  said the companies have  indicated that if                                                               
gas is  commercial, it will  be developed; however,  whether that                                                               
development will  be enough or in  time is unknown.   He referred                                                               
to publications  that have recognized  the resurgence of  oil and                                                               
gas activity  in Cook  Inlet and assured  the committee  DNR will                                                               
redouble its  efforts. Commissioner  Sullivan closed,  saying DNR                                                               
is a strong team that operates  at the highest level of integrity                                                               
and will provide straight answers and information.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:10:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MILLETT appreciated DNR's straightforward presentation.                                                                
She stated the importance of providing Alaska's gas for                                                                         
Alaskans.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:11:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Special Committee on Energy meeting was adjourned at 10:11 a.m.                                                                 

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